Part 2, part 3, part 4.
I have not told this part of my story about one component of the Department of Corrections, the Probation Department because when I had issues in the past the higher ups did something about them. I got the impression Director Donna White and the Chief Probation Officer for my region, Rebecca Brunger, really wanted to do their jobs in a professional way and they were working to stop the abuses. They seemed to be different than the prison system. They listened to me several times when I called with incidents with probation officers that left me traumatized and stopped some of the abuses. Perhaps they are doing their best to implement changes, but the abusive attitudes are so ingrained in the probation officers because of the system they have been working in for decades that abuses and violation of rights will never be curtailed. I got the feeling for a time which I now know is wrong that changes were being implemented.
I realize they are not responsible for the injustices from the court system or the abuse from the prison systems and their hands are tied about many things. I just never expected so much abuse over such a long period of time. Several times I had hope that things were going to change for those on probation and parole. That hope is now completely gone. I decided to tell this story about my experiences with the probation department after a recent incident. I have even said some nice things about them in the past and really do not want to do this, but I have no choice. I may also be retaliated against.
I have now been through so many traumatic incidents with them in the 2 years and five months I have been on probation that I would not feel good about myself if I did not speak up. It is my hope to bring to light how people are treated by the probation department so others know they too can have a voice about the abuse and violation of their rights. In Alaska people don’t seem to know what really goes on with the DOC/DOP which makes those who complain about the problems seem like they are lying. The more we tell the stories, the more people will realize they are true. It is also very important for the public to know what really happens to those on probation and parole, so they can understand how the DOC/DOP contribute to recidivism and exacerbate mental health problems. I was hoping to wait the seven more months of my probation before telling this whole story for fear of retaliation, but it just can’t wait. They have shown me they are not going to change.
My first Contact with the Probation Department was really no contact. A report was written about me as if the probation officer knew me. In Nome my practicing alcoholic public defender told me how thrilled she was that a particular probation officer would be writing my pre-sentencing report. I found that odd, there is only one probation officer in Nome as far as I know. I told this P.D. that under no circumstances did I want that woman writing my report as she is friends with some of the players at the hospital. I knew she would be manipulated by them and perhaps even slant the report on purpose as that was what was generally happening with anything connected to my case. I also knew how awful people were treated by the court system in Nome. The P.D. told me not to worry as this woman was pregnant and she would not be available during the period of time the report would be written. I then told her this probation officer would “bust her ass” to write the report for her friends. I called Quinlan Steiner and the deputy director of the criminal division to tell them I did not want this woman to write the report. She wrote it and the P.D.’s attitude when I complained was a shoulder shrug and an, “Oh, well.” Knowing her she may have asked her to be sure to write it. That P.O. put a lot of misinformation in the report and rated me with only a moderate chance of rehabilitation. If she had known me she would know there was nothing to rehabilitate, but she was caught up in the rumor mill and lies in Nome. She wrote the report without having one conversation with me, knowing anything about my background, and with much influence from the serial bullies at the hospital, I don‘t know how much she was influenced by the prosecutor. That report was presented in court to the judge to review before sentencing me, under great protest from me. My protesting about that and other violations of due process were ignored by all involved. The report was pretty much bullshit, but the truth does not matter in the justice system in Alaska, just the goals of those in power.
My second contact was right after I was released from Wildwood Correctional Facility when I thought I was going to stay there for 45 days and got released after two days. I had paid bills and only had $70. Release from prison in Alaska just means they push you out the door without a concern if you have food, a place to stay or health care if you need it. They don’t care about health care as they deny it in the prisons. I had no idea which way to even walk to town. Someone heard me say that as I walked out of the prison and a guy in truck came and told me. Gee, thanks.
I ended up in a really awful women’s shelter for a while in Kenai. The building itself is nice, but the staff are very dysfunctional, add addicts, alcoholics and personality disorders to the mix…and it is a nightmare. There were several reports of narcotics and sedatives being stolen from the drug lock up cupboard there which made me even more uncomfortable. It was a prime chance for someone to blame me again for something I did not do. The probation officer said I could not have had access due to no access to the keys to the two locks. Even so it made me very anxious because I know how the DOL and law enforcement twist the truth with false information if they want to. The next place was a room in a run down hotel in Soldotna with a bar, prostitutes, people passed out in the halls, lots of noise, etc. The first probation officer was clearly not against me and mainly wanted to check to see if I had food when he visited me. When I left there I stayed at another hotel a month or two which was not a dump and was peaceful. There is way more to all of my housing stories which I should write about soon as well.
Then I decided to go to Homer to get started on the civil lawsuits. I got another probation officer who sees people in Homer and had all of the meetings in the court house. I looked over and saw the name of the judge who did not believe me when I told her I was falsely accused and would not allow me to get my cat and property to safety when I told her what would happen. It triggered my PTSD and I pointed at the name and said something about her being the morbidly obese judge who would not listen to the truth. The probation officer could have cared less that my PTSD was triggered or that it was traumatizing for me to have meetings there at the courthouse where a huge injustice had occurred. He only cared that I said the judge was morbidly obese and for some reason was upset about it. Unless she has lost weight she is. I have Aspergers, ok, I call it like it is and when he had a reaction I told him I was overweight myself and it really was not a put down so much as a description based on reality. I often described myself at the time as being moderately obese. This is also how nurses describe people. I once had a woman storm into the ICU angry because a cardiothoracic surgeon had written in her history and physical she had pendulous breasts. My response was that I also had pendulous breasts and so did several of my coworkers and patients in that unit right then. She looked stunned, turned and walked out. That doctor said he never heard from her again.
In Homer I carefully selected a place to rent due to huge problems in the past with slumlords there. I picked a brand new place thinking meth labs and parties would not be allowed. I was wrong. Yea, it was bad. I contacted two disability agencies and did as they said to complain. The response was that I was ejected from the place. I tried to file a case based on the landlord tenant act, but the court house was in transition and the law library was dismantled over a long period of time. Then it was change to just a computer. This made working on my civil suits impossible as well. No access to the courts in rural Alaska. That is how low income people are treated in Homer and much of Alaska. I was then suicidal for the second time since coming to Alaska. I kept thinking if I could just get back to America and out of this third world country I would be OK.
I also need to do a summary post of the crazy mental health care I have had in Alaska. After a few days I ended up in Anchorage at Providence Hospital. I was being transferred to the probation office in Anchorage and I hoped being in the city they might be more progressive. I was wrong. They were just more brutal.
I had no place to live and told them at the hospital I needed to go on line to look for a place to live. For some reason they lied to me and told me they had no WiFI, so I called some places that were in the paper with no results. My probation officer in the Kenai office told me the probation office in Anchorage had transitional housing so I called the woman who was my new probation officer. She told me very nastily that there was no transitional housing like I was just making it up. She said they had a halfway house that was just like being in jail and I would not be able to leave for the first thirty days. She clearly wanted to scare me out of that idea. I told her I just needed a place to stay while I searched for a place to live. Later I spoke with two men who told me their probation officers helped them find transitional housing.
I had two conversations with this woman on the phone while I was hospitalized for suicidal ideations, she was very ugly both times. She did not even know me, she is just abusive naturally. Her attitude was that I had no right to even ask questions and that I was lying about what the other P.O. had told me about the transitional housing, I was not. I did not know yet that essentially there is almost no low income housing in Anchorage and that landlords don’t rent to those with criminal records, no matter what the truth is about their situation. I also did not know that anyone who has no job to return to or a place to live when discharged from incarceration in Alaska is just let out into the street and the DOC nor any other state officials give a shit. I had also not found out that Alaska Housing Finance Corporation staff were going to lie to me about being able to get a voucher several times. If I had been turned down I could have appealed and most likely would have won.
I had to press a social worker at the hospital about housing and she finally gave me a list, the same list of non-available or untenable housing every agency in Anchorage had. She told me she did not recommend any except maybe one. I had already contacted that one and got vague information from the newspaper.
I was discharged from the hospital having been there for a week due to being suicidal to the street and I knew nothing about Anchorage. The nasty P.O. insisted that I come and see her as soon as I was discharged. She refused to let me wait until the next day. I had to use the bus system which I did not know at all while dragging a suitcase and carrying a backpack. I am directionally impaired which is pretty common for Aspies. That adds a lot to the stress. We also don’t tolerate changes like the ones I was going through very well. I had to find Brother Francis Shelter that day, but the P.O. would not wait until the next day to see me. Why? Just to be a bullying ass. I had been suicidal because of all I had been through and the last straw was seeing the judges name, not being able to access a law library and then loosing housing again and now I was homeless again. Rather than be supportive or just treat me like a human being she did everything she could to harm me. She is the most dehumanizing P.O. I have come in contact with. Many of these people should not in any way have any contact with anyone with mental health issues of any kind, no way. They should just deal with their own mental health issues.
So, I arrived with my luggage to the Anchorage Probation Office and noticed a sign that said I could not bring my backpack, etc. in there. Nice sign since so many of the people who have to come in there are homeless. I filled out the form they make us fill out every time we go in there with the same damn information over and over, then waited and waited. They apparently aren’t real big on timed appointments there. I sat a long period of time while I was very worried as I knew nothing about Brother Francis and actually getting checked into the shelter that day. I was wondering how all the people who had jobs were supposed to keep their jobs when they had to wait there so long for an appointment.
Finally a woman called my name and I went up for the metal detector wanding and search they do every time I have gone into a probation office. I had all the luggage and she began going through it. I was not happy about that because I have no idea if her hands are clean and even if they are I don’t like it. I did not complain about it. At that time I was still having a lot of pain and had acetaminophen and ibuprofen in baggies that were easily accessible so I did not have to dig through everything to get to them if I had pain. She found the acetaminophen and began to ask me questions. “Is this prescription strength Tylenol”,…I told her it was just plain Tylenol. She then asked me that question several different ways. I kept telling her nothing was in the pill but acetaminophen and she could send it to a lab if she questioned it. I was thinking she must think they might be Vicodin because they were the shape of Vicodin, but then I realized that was not the case. Again she asked me if they were prescription strength Tylenol. Finally exasperated with being interrogated by a woman who had no idea what she was talking about with an attitude like I was some kind of an idiot in a very abusive way I said, “Look, there is no such thing as prescription strength Tylenol.” For a while I had been trying to figure out what she was getting at, then I realized she was not too bright. Who doesn’t know acetaminophen is an over the counter medication? I had made it clear to her it was just plain acetaminophen with no other medication. She then became very threatening and I was brought to the back. She told me they had to get some information from me. She asked me a few basic questions which I answered while crying. Then I asked her why they were asking me questions for basic information the DOP already had and got no answer. You see I was told to come down there just so they could be abusive to me, simple and plain.
Then I was told I could leave by this woman who was not my probation officer, she is a technician. I of course wanted to know why I had to come to the office if I was not even seeing the probation officer. Apparently this probation officer was listening and immediately appeared and became nasty just like on the phone. She threatened to send me back to jail right then because of my questions. I then told her that she could not send me to jail unless I violated a condition of my probation or committed a crime. Apparently at the DOP asking questions and making comments is considered a crime by many. A crime against their inflated egos. That would of course make me one of the biggest criminals in the history of Alaska in their minds due to my propensity for question asking and comment making. She then told me I had to come in for orientation the next day and then stay for a meeting with her. Oh, joy. When I told her I had already done orientation she told me their’s was different than in Kenai which is not true. It was done in a different way, but the content was the same, of course it is. They once again told me all the types of knives I could not have and I still have no idea what any of them even are.
At the meeting after the exciting orientation she was a snarky smartass. She mainly turned up the radio on her desk really loud and be-bopped to the music and typed into her computer while I sat there wondering why the hell I was there and that she either needed some medication or was taking too much. Something was not right, this woman was underweight and acting weird. She asked me about the Salvation Army’s housing not too far away. She drove me there and the guy behind the desk wanted to talk with her in private in the back. It was like some kind of strange spy movie. When she came out she told me they were full which I knew was a lie as I was diligently searching for housing and had spoken to him already. As we left I asked her what that was about and why being full was a secret and she became very angry. I told her I was not stupid. She then said, “I don’t play that”, this was not the first time she had used gangster talk on me. I am in my 50s. When I asked her why she talked to me that way she said, “You should see the people I have to deal with.” Did I look like them, I asked. Now I realized she had a very negative opinion of the people she worked with and no skills of communication. I refused a ride from her preferring to walk a long distance rather than suffer any more of her abuse and BS.
Ok…time to call higher ups. I called the director of the DOP who directed me to call the supervisor of the office. The supervisor wanted to have a meeting with me and the P.O., but I just wanted to get a new one, the situation was not going to get better with her. I called Kenai and talked to a former P.O. who told me that abusive woman was his friend and she was a good P.O. I clearly told him there was something wrong with her and she was very mean. I had just gotten out of the hospital for PTSD with suicidal ideation and now I was sicker than before admission from severe abuse.
So, more phone calls. I had already not been listened to about the alcoholic public defender and other issues, I did not want to negotiate about this. So I called Director White again. Then we had a meeting in which I was given a sex offender P.O. temporarily. Great now I have to carry the sex offender P.O. card around in my wallet. Then they decided to give me to another P.O. Before I even saw this person I got the call about housing in Soldotna and left Anchorage. I was then back at the Kenai Adult Probation Office. I was glad to get away from the crazy DOP office in Anchorage. I was not all that thrilled about Soldotna, but I knew the manager of the apartments was a good person. I wanted to stay in Anchorage for many reasons including the law library.
End of part one.
21 comments:
AK is in desperate need of advocacy, there are a lot of arrogant people working in state offices who are either ignorant of their rules or feel they are above the rules. Sorry to hear of the abuse you have been put through!
Wow Celia, what a terrible, sad and scary story. I am so sorry you were/are caught up in this nightmare.
Nobody should have to go through this.
You hang tough, and yes, you are a smart person. I hope you receive better treatment by people in the system. Stay positive and hopeful. Don't let them win.
A suggestion. I've been through a lot of the same thing with our daughter, she was so upset with how she was being treated that I started accompanying her to all meetings, be it court appointed check in or parol meetings. I was never told I could not sit in a meeting and I often asked questions in order to clarify understanding so my daughter and I understood exactly what we were being told. I also spoke up when we were told conflicting information.
I think having two sets of ears and two brains at work helped greatly.
You might try having another person along, one as a witness to how you are treated, another as like I said, more ears, more questions.
Who would dare mistreat someone with a witness? You need a level headed advocate on your side.
Anonymous 9:46 AM, good idea. At one point I brought a tape reocorder with me and was talked out of it. I will be recording all meetings in the future. When I brought out my tape recorder before, the P.O. got his out and put it on his desk, like he was dueling with me. There is more to this story.
Celia,
I have read parts of your story you posted before, I'm so sorry you had to go through all this.
But Alaska is the dipshit state that elected palin as gov. so you know all departments are corrupt and DOJ run by ex-love Joe Schmidt.
My number one suggestion would be get out of Alaska!
Or try to get some help from ACLU?
I have donated to them to help people like you!
Or go up to Attorney General Karen Loeffler?
What is this sex offender thing? WTF?
I tweeted this out maybe someone will see it and help you?
How about contacting Sibel Edmonds?? She is a Whistleblower?
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/contact/
crystalwolfakacaligrl, I am in the process of stepping up my complaints on many levels as this is not the only problem going with me right now. The sex offender P.O. I believe just happened to be in charge of that particular area and it probably had nothing to do with anything other than giving me a different P.O. It's just being homeless and on probation one can expect to be harrassed by police and I did not want to have to carry that card to make things worse.
Yea that's what I mean, that just compounds thing and its unfounded! So Damn Corrupt there.
Also Celia, I can totally relate to your PTDS, my daughter had the same exact reactions, I never put it together with PTDS. I'm sure it is very common with people in the system, especially those wronged, and those who are female and sensitive.
I don't mean to tell you what to do, but perhaps you should put off complaints until you are out of the system, I don't trust these people.
And let the aashole dual record all he wants, he's just jerking your chain probably hoping you'll do something he can use against you. Keep your cool and address business in order to get it over with asap. Don't give them reasons to add more crap to your file.
I sure as hell wouldn't want them giving me counseling, anything that gets put in those records could be used against you by them.
I hate to say this, but if it was my daughter going through this I'd tell her to get along, don't make waves, just to get out asap.
Hugs to you.
Anonymous 10:18 AM, I tried what you suggested several times and was not successful, that is why I have not written about this before. Unfortunately it is very hard for people who are not familiar with the corrupt and incompetent agencies in Alaska to understand the situation. The DOC is run by a Palin appointee, that means his agenda is slanted.
The reason Sarah Palin was unleashed on the country is people were afraid to speak up. If no one tells their story nothing will ever change. They can't violate my rights again, it will not happen.
While on probation in Kenai Alaska I had probation officer James Howard. While on probation him and the officer he worked with sexually harassed me several times.
While watching a friends residence they came and drug tested me. Afterward they looked around the house and gawked at the female friend whom I was house sitting for.
James asked me several times about her breasts on more than one time. The other officer made a comment to James saying he had hoped her and her husband did not have sex in front of their children (Because their children are young and share a large room with the mother and father).
I started recording conversations with James a while back after me made slanderous remarks about me in the office to the other probation officers.
I talked to a counselor about this and harbored it, I did not know what to do, I felt like I was hiding a secret about my best friend and her family.
I emailed James the other day and told him, even though I cannot do anything about it, I will tell everyone the truth. I also emailed Ruben, head officer in the office, although he never emailed me back.
-No Longer Anonymous
Anonymous Nov. 11th 9:04 P.M. The way this comment is worded I have questions about your being a troll, like one from the DOC/DOP. If what you are saying is true you should contact higher ups to tell your story at the dept of probation as well as the ombudsman's office, and any other agency with any influence. Never go through Ruben or risk their retaliation. Remember they have the power to have you incarcerated and harass you. If you do have a recording you may be able to use it, but unless they knew about being recorded it may be illegally obtained. If you can afford one, get the advice of an attorney. Why do you say you are no longer anonymous when you certainly are?
Are you still having to deal with them or are you finally finished with it all together? I hope this post finds you doing well and healed of the trauma they have put you through. My heart goes out to you deeply.
My family's lives have been utterly effected by their attitudes and mentalities as well. I was completely naive about the horrors of the system until about 7 1/2 years ago when I met my,now, husband. Ever since then I have had such a heart and compassion for those (and their families)caught up in the snares of the system.
My husband is 'still' trapped in their clutches and it has been one hell of a roller coaster ride. We have learned so much though and it has really stretched our faith beyond comprehension. We have learned that God is ultimately in control and trust that he has a plan for our lives and uses our sufferings in this life for a greater purpose - perhaps to give us compassion to reach out to others to help them through their trials and sufferings down the road or to build in us a faith that is unshakable and to draw us closer to him; maybe in a way we would not have chosen to be if we had not gone through the suffering we have? I don't have all of those answers, but have simply learned to let go of all of the unanswered questions and trust HIM, while at the same time doing all that he has equipped me to be able to do to make a difference.
He (my husband) is an amazing man and I am so proud of where he is at with all of this today. He, like you, has unjustly been held captive by the system, but because he has made mistakes that 'have' violated the laws, there is even less sympathy when seeking help than there is for those who are completely innocent. Even still, He has, after all of the years he has endured these trials,has truly clung to God and is trusting in God's will and plans for his life and we know that this will all end soon and when it does, God will use us to reach out to and encourage others who are trapped within it. He already does.
My husband ministers to other inmates regularly and has been asked to start up a bible study by some of those you'd least expect would want anything to do with God. It is so exciting!
He really has a heart for the young ones and tries to encourage them to take responsibility where they must, and to strive to stay out of the system there after as much as possible.
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I have been corresponding a bit with one of the Senators up there in Alaska through his face book page and he has asked me to call his office to speak with him further. I honestly do not know what to expect from this and quite frankly, am a bit nervous. With the Legislature currently in session right now, he is pushing for the public to jump on board with the States "5-year offender re-entry plan" for 2011 - 2016; with the intentions of integrating more rehabilitative programs in to the DOC pre and post release to reduce recidivism and cut (curb is the word he uses) corrections costs. I have been pointing out ways the public is not knowing or seeing where or how funds are being spent (wastefully) and pointed out to him the fact that, as this 5-year plan points out, the 66% of inmates who are incarcerated in the prison facilities are parole or probation violators are often there because it is too easy for parole and probation officers to violate - convincing him that they do it because they are often on a power trip and have serious judge/jury/god complexes is going to be more difficult than pointing out that there needs to be required alternatives that P&P must utilize FIRST vs petitioning to revoke, arresting and incarcerating as their first (while seemingly their favorite) course of action. One thing I've learned about the system is - it is slow. I don't know if I will get anywhere with this Senator, but I'm determined to do what I can.
Anyway, I truly hope that you are doing well, that God has brought healing to your mind, heart and soul. I would love to visit with you more and you are in my prayers!
God Bless You!
Celia Harrison, Troll? Waste of time, I don't want to drag the other family through this, so it has been dropped. I am no longer anonymous, because I told James and Reuben my stance on their shady practices. They both know where I live and although the street beat cops harass me when they can, that is all they can do. I am not on probation anymore and James cannot look at my penis in a room with four mirrors any more.
You can legally record a conversation between you and the person you are engaged in conversation with. No need to duel, you do not need to disclose information about your recorder. There are eavesdrop laws that I suggest people research. My girlfriend had probation in Kenai, she actively recorded her appointments. I would recommend doing so with all law enforcement. -G
Anonymous July 17, 2012 2:48 PM:
No, that is not true, you can't record people secretly. If your girlfriend did this while on probation that is a probation violation and could be used to send her to prison. However, she can inform the P.O. that she is recording all of the conversations. My purpose was to stop the inappropriate behavior and bullying. I have PTSD from bullying and having to go see these people with high school bully mentalities was harming my health. I wanted that P.O., his bully supervisor and anyone else to know I was recording the conversations. Not all of the P.O.s are like this, but apparently a large number are. I do wish I had recorded that very disturbed woman and her assistant in Anchorage because I doubt many people could really understand how sick and ignorant their behavior was without it.
AS 42.20.310. Eavesdropping.
(a) A person may not
(1) use an eavesdropping device to hear or record all or any part of an oral conversation without the consent of a party to the conversation;
(2) use or divulge any information which the person knows or reasonably should know was obtained through the illegal use of an eavesdropping device for personal benefit or another's benefit;
(3) publish the existence, contents, substance, purport, effect, or meaning of any conversation the person has heard through the illegal use of an eavesdropping device;
(4) divulge, or publish the existence, contents, substance, purport, effect, or meaning of any conversation the person has become acquainted with after the person knows or reasonably should know that the conversation and the information contained in the conversation was obtained through the illegal use of an eavesdropping device.
(b) In this section "eavesdropping device" means any device capable of being used to hear or record oral conversation whether the conversation is conducted in person, by telephone, or by any other means; provided that this definition does not include devices used for the restoration of the deaf or hard-of-hearing to normal or partial hearing.
Paul Scott , James ex partner was let go. Thankfully, that is one less pervert. But what about James ? He asked me and the girl at my house if we were friends or just had sex, meanwhile Paul Scott "bloodhound" flipped my room looking for anything illegal. She will testify.
How do I contact you Celia?
Anonymous January 13, 2013 at 10:25 AM there is a little envelope icon at the top on the right side of the blog you can click to email me.
Hello Im dealing with the court system in minnesota..Its as if they never know when to quit bothering people..I recieved Felony Terroristic Threats and was ushered right in to a plea deal of one year in jail and three years of probation..I was told if I brought it to trial and lost I would go to prison for five years I mean really what the hell is wrong with america? I did not committ the crime.I was pointed out by some woman who called the police and she said I was suspect..Ive never even met or talked to that person..The cops told me to tell it to the judge..so all of this has ruined my life I lost my job Lost my apartment lost my car because it was towed and my girlfriend left ..so I was released november 1st 2013 out to the streets and I cannot leave the state...I wanted to just leave and go south so I wouldent freeze to death ..probation are some mean sarcastic people..I think im going to say fu<k it and leave ive been homeless ever since I got out and hra wont take my housing application because im a felon currently on probation ...The state of minnesota no longer issues food stamps or ebt benefits anymore so I am hungry and homeless...all I have to say about the probation and court system is that they are crooked bastards...
James Nelson, Are there any organizations in your state that can help you with an appeal or post conviction relief? We have no help here except the public pretenders who write appeals that are sure to be lost. You have to get all of the records you can including any file from attorneys. Find the court rules in your state and read about appeals and post conviction relief. Read through the files and look for problems. Hopefully you can find a law library that has librarians that help. They can teach you how to look up cases from the appeals court and how to write documents properly. We don't have that where I am. We are on our own with the whole system working against us. I am sorry about your being convicted when innocent, the system is designed to be controlled by the prosecutors who lie and hold back evidence while they arbitrarily decide who is treated harshly and who gets off Scott free. The public defenders threaten defendants with long sentences to manipulate pleas, they say things like,"You never know what a jury will do' as well. Don't leave while you are on probation as they will put you back in prison. If you would like to go to another state research the process of asking permission to move your probation there.
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