Update Added. Deputy US Marshal Rochelle Liedike, Did She Tell A Lie About Me to Shawn Christy's Former Federal Public Defender Staff or Did the PDs Do This? Both Agencies are Under the DOJ, Was It a Team Effort?

Update:

@5.37 Shawn discusses Rochelle Liedike. He says she lied that she was never on his case. It's is hard to understand but it sounds like he is saying that in some discovery from the FBI there is evidence she contacted him under the name Diana Gonzales and offered him sexual favors for information. I knew about that, but did not know he had this evidence. She's going to get a subpoena. That is why they are blocking whatever they can in his case, widespread corruption and lying.





I dropped some research in this post because I am damn tired of people lying about me in the background to get others to help them harm me. All the people who are slandering and libeling me need to be in prison. Clearly this is done to harm the target and they even tell lies to cause misdiagnoses and medical bullying, everything they can get to is sabotaged. The video that disproves the lie is further down the page. I am also tired of people believing anything they are told without asking for documentation. Bullying, harassing, spreading rumors, doing odd things to people, helping to break into their homes and other crimes are not an investigation, any LEOs who tell people it is are lying. Nope, it is harassment, disruption and discrediting. They are going after good people. A large number of LEOs in this country are committing crimes and violating the Constitution. 

I was waiting for the FOIA request sent to the USMS to find out if they were willing to admit the government is doing organized harassment/disrupt/discredit on me before posting this information about Deputy US Marshal Rochelle Liedike. The research and FOIA requests of a massive amount of others affected similarly as myself have shown it is clear the government will not tell the truth, just continue to gaslight. So far no response at all from my FOIA request other than they go on my blog to do research and perhaps facilitate the increase in gangstalking or organized harassment that happened this summer. Boise Idaho gets more heinous as time goes on.

I decided to go forward with posting this information and make a video of a phone conversation with a deputy US Marshal due to false information from a memo in paperwork Shawn, Jessica Hoon Eckert and the Christys received from the Middle District of the Federal Public Defender Agency. At this point I do not know if the lie was from Deputy US Marshal Rochelle Liedike, the fed public defenders/DOJ or if the investigator, John Brunza screwed up or lied. Considering the things that have gone on it could be either or both. One thing is clear, there is documentation that someone is not telling the truth and both the USMS and the federal public defenders have a history of lying, covering up and corruption. I contacted the Middle District/PA PD office Friday, August 30th, was lied to that Heidi Freese Shawn's PD was not in that day, then she called later, left a msg including that she was in.  My phone was off as I was in a quiet area when she called, if I knew that was a possibility I would have been in a different spot, but was told a lie. Then I called back but they were gone. Yesterday there was a hearing in the morning, so tried to call later twice, no success. Guess I need to ask the DOJ OIG for some answers. 

Shawn Christy has reported that he saw Rochelle Liedike and a female FBI agent all over the place during his 3 month run the summer of 2018. It was clear that run was being orchestrated, the odd vehicles, keys easy to find, the coincidences and the businesses with their security systems off. The USMS did constant threat signaling about Shawn and yet they did not use technology used for tracking to find him. Things the FBI and USMS never do (but they do) happened like knowing Shawn was going to show up at Dakota Meyer's home, then stay away (or observe from a distance), no one was there, very strange, not even Meyers or his brother who works for Mitch McConnell, Timothy Gilliam. There was the odd USPS vehicle left there for Shawn.They also did not seem to be able to track him at all in the woods or in vehicles. Who thinks that school mini van and the postal vehicle did not have GPS in them? They did not want to find him, they wanted him dead. Who was orchestrating the run, was it the two women Shawn saw often, USMS and FBI both under the DOJ? What agency is the whole team really working for?

Who is Rochelle Liedike? She has had several last names, has ties to Virginia and is "sneaky" like Shawn has said. This video right below is when I knew she was the woman I had called the Fake Homeless Lady at the Library during the Arctic Conference in Anchorage Alaska at the end of August in 2015. Some of the others in the video were stalking, harassing and trying to provoke me. They were interested in my suitcase which contained my medical records from Providence Hospital, documentation collected about the gangstalking operation at Laurawood Arms Apts in Soldotna Alaska (I did not understand what went on was organized harassment then), other documentation and personal papers in files. First people following me showed interest in the suitcase, then it disappeared off a Greyhound bus, I shitstormed them until they had to give it back to me, yes things in the suitcase were disrupted. Then it was stolen from behind a locked storage room at a homeless shelter in Boise Idaho using their out of control bullying minions who were often sociopathic. I believe the files were stolen to protect Greg Russell the handler in the gangstalking in Soldotna Alaska, especially since there are a large number of witnesses to that operation including the former manager and maintenance man who were also gangstalked by him and his disturbed family and his crew of elderly miscreants who can't tell reality from unreality or truth from fiction. Would that have lead to the entity that was directing the organized harassment? Yes it would if we had any agency in this country that was not corrupt and would investigate. The police in Soldotna should have investigated but they are too busy kissing Greg Russell's ass.

It's a long story, but I finally after several years left that apartment and went to Anchorage Alaska to be homeless. Just like in Idaho the homeless shelters in Alaska are a cluster, traumatizing and unsafe.

Both the USMS and the Secret Service are located in the Federal Building on 7th St. in Anchorage and the FBI is close by on 6th. Even though these are federal agencies they were most likely the ones who were doing the surveillance on my blog from Anchorage.

This happened at the Kaladi Brothers, a coffee shop across from city hall in Anchorage Alaska. The manager started getting really nasty right after all of this started. She went around taking videos with a tablet and glaring at people, especially me. I told them about that at city hall, no one cares just like all the abuses of the homeless.

I have described before how I was followed and harassed leading up to the Arctic Conference and during it. This caused me to go find a place to stay away from the downtown area until it was over. I went to the Qupqugiaq Inn which had Japanese pods which were more affordable than a regular room. The place is kind of funky. Right after arriving a little guy showed up and sat in the chair at the end of the table close to the bottom of the picture for hours. I realized he was there to do surveillance on me. There was no reason for that so it was very strange.

At the Loussac Library in Anchorage Alaska there was some construction going on. I have since learned construction is used as cover for many parts of gangstalking and used for harassment. Noise campaigns, chemical campaigns, weaponized fire alarms are used any place they can manage them and maintenance/construction equipment. That happened over and over right after I arrived at the Loussac library during the Arctic Conference. I did not understand government organized harassment then or that this country is ruled by psychopaths. I had a heavy backpack and rolling suitcase with me all the time. That library begins on the second floor of the building it is in, so I had to navigate out of the library during their weaponized fire alarms using the stairs with the backpack and suitcase nearly every time I went there. This is happening to people all over the country. I can't understand why people would participate in such a waste of resources or think it is OK to bully and harass people, but they participate in large numbers, our leadership are not good stewards of tax payer money. The quality of the people in this country has deteriorated to the point of being quite dangerous and clearly the worst of us are in charge.

Rochelle Liedike is associated with several last names which could just indicate several marriages. I wonder if she had a connection to Clune Construction on the east coast.



  


 

 

 

Any relation to Clune Construction in Virginia?

We all wondered where that SarahPac money went. Remember how she claimed a lot of it was used to pay her relatives?

Shawn just had a psych eval, no psychosis, he has a high IQ and his mother describes an eidetic memory. Usually these kinds of traits are linked genetically to very good eye sight. His parents also report he does not lie.

The FBI was infiltrated by the CIA which put people from intelligence agencies and military intel into it, USMS and FBI are controlled by the CIA controlled DOJ, so much so our current A.G. William Barr is CIA and his father, Donald Barr was OSS (CIA precursor) who hired Jeffrey Epstein to work at a school he ran. Epstein worked for both CIA and Mossad. There is a hell of a lot more to that story. On top of all of this my own experiences of being tracked, harassed and set up cause me to believe Shawn due to similar experiences and my research about what has happened to others. The main exception in the stories of others are the orchestrated runs Shawn went on. I said years ago they were trying to make Shawn into a shooter, it did not work, instead you got a pro se litigator. My gangstalking did not start at the age of 17 like his did but they use the same tactics on all targets, everything is standardized, everywhere, all targets know details of what he and has family have been through. Imagine what it would be like to be a target of the government since age 17, your life sabotaged in every way, lies told about you, set ups and strange goings on. How many would have done as well as Shawn has?


The top part is a repeat of a larger version of half of this. I posted the whole thing to disclose it was all in Craig's post.

 


I was at a library in Boise Idaho when I read that post above sitting right next to the Time Magazines, found that article and documented it. That picture of Deputy US Marshal Rochelle Liedike is really there in the article.

 


Donald Trump on the left and his former lawyer who is now in prison, Michael Cohen on the right in Portsmouth, N.H., in April 2011. Deputy US Marshal Rochelle Liedike is reflected like a ghost in the window. Shawn Christy spotted Liedike in the background in the picture, amazing, probably no one else would have noticed. Of course he has seen her all over while on his run.

Guess Michael Cohen was Trump's Roy Cohn substitute. Psychopath Roy Cohn who engineered McCathy-ism was Trump's mentor. Cohen lost his law license and so did Cohn just before he died. They are all from the same organized crime, sell guns, drugs, weapons and uranium oligarchy controlled intelligence group. The same people associated with Jeffrey Epstein.There is way more to the story than underage sex trafficking which was used to compromise and control people in positions of power.







 


See how her mouth is crooked in the window reflection photo? It seems to be a concentrating expression. The below photo helps verify that reflection is Rochelle Liedike on Donald Trump's security team in 2011. 

On August 27th the below memo was revealed to me from Jessica Hoon Eckert and the Christys. It states an investigator, John Brunza did an interview of Rochelle Liedike and states something she was supposed to have said. In the last paragraph is written, "Deputy Liedike reported that in late September 2018, a person named Celia Harrison contacted her to ask whether Deputy Liedike had been communicating with Shawn on Facebook using a fake name. Deputy Liedike said she never communicated with Shawn in an undercover capacity." This statement is false aka complete horse shit, the video below proves that. I called the Alaska USMS to ask questions about how they operate, policy, procedure questions. The reason I did this is both FBI and USMS in Alaska have gone to Pennsylvania related to an operation against Shawn Christy that has gone on for about a decade since he was 17 years old. They started in Alaska doing investigations and set ups on Shawn, then ended up in McAdoo PA or even transferred to PA. The first story was a female FBI agent from AK who came to the library in McAdoo PA and sat next to teenage Shawn disappearing his emails. His father Craig Christy went to the library to watch and reports seeing exactly the strange scenario his son Shawn reported.

Called the USMS in Alaska and was transferred, then spoke to a deputy named Shawn/Sean who did not give me useful info. When I called him a car pulled up next to me. I have that happen often, it's disruption, harassment. I was drinking coffee in a parking lot close to my storage probably very early in the morning at a Fred Meyers. A call came not long after that call ended, missed or ignored, don't remember. I may have been eating something. I called back and was surprised to find out it was Rochelle Liedike and in the recording you can kind of hear the surprise in my voice. Very odd that she called. I believe she knew exactly who I was and considering my phone is monitored for even things I say to myself to facilitate them knowing where I am going so they can set up harassment ops. Likely the Fusion Center in Utah was on some alert to notify her and perhaps others when I do certain things. I often have disruption happen if I make phone calls to government agencies and harassment calls.

That's it, that is all she said to the investigator that I called to ask if she was using a fake persona on FB to talk to Shawn, really? I don't have to ask if agencies have LEOs doing that, it is most certainly clear they do. In fact we have dropped information on the FB group, "Shawn Christy Political Prisoner' we wanted them to know. What questions were asked of Liedike? She should have had more to say than this. Why would the federal public defenders document just that response? Is this how a CIA Iran-Contra fixer A.G. who is running the DOJ operates the federal public defender agency?

No idea if the federal PDs screwed up what she said or Rochelle Liedike lied. The phone call was 26 minutes and most certainly Deputy Liedike would have remembered my accusation that she is 'The Fake Homeless Lady at the Library.'  Apparently she claims to never go anywhere, not Pennsylvania, not Ohio, not even to the Loussac Library in Anchorage Alaska. But we know in 2011 she was in New Hampshire with Donald Trump.

The only other explanation for that reflection picture of Liedike is Time Magazine which has heavy documentation of a long history propagandizing the public as a Mockingbird outlet of the CIA, was assisting them in the psyop against Shawn Christy by planting a doctored picture in the article.

With organized harassment they use mimics often along with other sick games to freak out the target and to attempt to make them appear mentally ill when they tell the stories. Were all those sightings Rochelle Liedike or psyop mimics from a distance? My intuitive brain says it was likely her working with the FBI to orchestrate the three month run, you know just what we all know the FBI does. USMS and FBI are under the umbrella of the DOJ and clearly have been working together against Shawn and his family for a decade.

I contacted the Middle District of the Federal Public Defenders in Pennsylvania Friday August 30th and again September 3rd to get their side of the story and to clarify their process, etc. After pointing out the false info in their document I emailed them the video below of the conversation I had with Rochelle Liedike. The receptionist told me Shawn's former public defender Heidi Freese was not in on Friday August 30th, then Freese called later leaving me a message that she was in, they were gone by the time I called back. I called twice to her office on the 3rd in order to clarify if the document was in error due to the public defenders or Deputy US Marshal Rochelle Liedike. I got no returned phone call which is the standard way I am treated by all government entities in the psychopathocracy we live in.

Yesterday Shawn had a hearing in which he requested to fire Heidi Freese and her team to become pro se, both requests were granted by judge Mariani due to the conduct of that agency. 

People who are not targeted do not know the FBI has called the Cointelpro which was supposed to have stopped in the 1970s, disrupt and discredit. The main way they discredit people is to spread false information, in person, by phone calls, emails, texting, etc. I have had many so called police do this to me verbally and in writing, these lies infect everything in the life of the target and some are done to anger people so they will do horrible things to us. Rochell Liedike was likely trying to make me sound like a nut. She could have done that by telling them I thought she was a fake homeless lady at a library and then telling them she had never been anywhere, not even to the library. By not doing so she admits it was true.

Shawn Christy and I did not have the same delusions and hallucinations. I wrote about that fake homeless lady at the Loussac library years before I had heard of Rochelle Liedike. The mannerisms are the same, the body build, the face, the hair, the way she talks. Wish I had a body camera then but who could imagine our government could do such horrible things to people.

Here is the document with the lies.

Let me be very clear and repeat myself for the third time. I did not contact Rochelle Liedke, she contacted me and I returned the call. I had called the Alaska USMS to ask some questions about procedures, talked to a guy named Shawn or Sean before she then called me which is very odd. Federal agencies don't call people with questions back, they sure as hell do not call ME back. I was close to my storage in the parking lot of a store when I called, with the first phone call someone pulled in next to me, then when I called Rochelle Liedike back a second car came and parked by me. The parking lot did not have very many cars in it due to being early, so the surveillance was obvious.

Word is Rochelle Liedike also worked security for Sarah Palin, but I have no documentation. Sarah Palin and Donald Trump are good friends, Liedike did security for Trump, 1+1=2. Which contractor does Rochelle Liedike work for? Dakota Meyer has one, Rochelle seems to have been in Virginia for a while where the larger contractors are located. Also many LEOs have their own LLCs for government contracting work. That is what Greg Russell in Soldotna Alaska does to torture people for political reasons. It's the Phoenix Program in America.

Here is the whole 26 minute conversation from the rings to the hang up.

“The Jeffrey Epstein Scandal: Too Big to Fail Series of Articles by Whitney Webb, Capitalism Teams Up With Psychopaths

The worst of us are in charge of everything and going after thousands who have the courage to speak up. They discredit and disrupt us, do what they can to harm us without getting charged with crimes. 

I already know about some of this story through lots of reading and following George Webb who now has teamed up with John O'Laughlin. Over time they have provided a great deal of knowledge, but our politics are at opposite ends of the spectrum. They are Trump supporters and periodically I get disgusted and stop watching them. I have a very different view of Trump than they do. I always end up back watching them again though for the info. I just don't understand at this point why they still support Trump. I do not support the Democrats or Republicans because I know too much at this point. The only viable candidate for president on the side of the people is Bernie Sanders who broke my heart by telling everyone to vote for Hillary Clinton after they screwed him out of the nomination.

I have worked in psych, including with psychopaths and sociopaths at psych hospitals in units for mentally ill legal offenders and in prisons. My fascination for psychopaths caused me to keep up on the research, etc. This began when a particularly creepy one held up a cigarette lighter and while looking through the flame told me he was going to rape me when I was young. I was quite a macho girl which is why I was working there and essentially told him come at me bro. If they did something that could be used to keep them locked up longer women in the community would be safer. He did not like me, what I know now is that says something good about me when narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths are threatened and want to harm me.

Psychopaths detect others like-minded people their environment, they use them in key positions under them. They work to get into powerful positions that help them get things they want, money, sex, ability to sadistically torture people, etc. This is why they gravitate to CEO positions, are police officers, corrections officers, mob bosses, politicians, etc. Let's not forget there is a high percentage of pyschopaths in journalism as those who are willing to compromise their integrity get paid a huge amount of money in news media and are introduced to other powerful psychopaths. They work together, there are different types of psychopaths who do different types of crimes.

They run off good people, those with integrity, experience, expertise, ethics, morals and who actually do the work at hand. This is what workplace bullying is, community mobbing, community policing, gangstalking, organized harassment and all the other names it goes by. They are not in a job to do the hard work and gradually earn experience to advance, instead they chat the boss up and feed negative things to them about others they want gone. Eventually they do that to the boss and take their job.

This is what has happened on a grand scale in the United States, Capitalism has teamed up with Psychopaths. It is said all of this started after WWII, but it started during WWII when the military industrial complex and oil companies were making a huge amount of money and our own corporations and oligarchs worked with the NAZIs to make themselves very wealthy. Predatory behavior means they work with whoever gets them what they want not caring others are harmed, murdered or tortured.

If a good person is in a powerful position they will get pushed out of it by psychopaths so they can take over to make money or get something they want. Remember they have no empathy or conscience, they do not mind hurting people, they have no negative feelings that happen when they do something horrible. I think of them as being a different species, knowing full well they aren't. That helps me understand their motivations and thinking. They are able to run cons and manipulate people because we all believe others think the way we do. If you would never harm someone it is hard to understand those who would. I am now 64 and have been through hell at the hands of a large number those on the sociopathy scale, narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths. I call them all collectively, the Sociopathics and it can include personality disorders with just some sociopathic traits rather than full blown sociopathy. Sociopathy and psychopathy are grouped together in the DSM 5 as Antisocial Personality Disorder. For some reason they have not distinguished the differences which do exist. The DSMs have always been filled with BS diagnoses.

Donald Trump was mentored by one of the most notorious psychopaths in the history of the United States, Roy Cohn  He was Joseph McCarthy's lawyer. Remember how Donald Trump during a speech went off the rails into a red scare? That was Cohn's influence. When Donald Trump bullies and lies on Twitter, that is what Cohn taught him to do.

The socipathics pick a cause that makes them look like the good guy, they get support and many negative things about them are overlooked. That is what the anti-communist crap is about as well as a way to discredit those they are threatened by. Anything that is for the people is now considered communist by the radical ill-informed right. Another popular crusade to help them wear the mask of the good guy is the pro-life movement. That is why once the child is born they cut, food, education, housing and health care. In the US we have a high rate of death of infants compared to other so called first world countries. Why if they love babies so much is that allowed, facilitated and then ignored? Why if they don't want abortions do they prevent birth control from being taught in high schools? Because they don't love anyone but themselves and are simply using propaganda to suck in the rubes for votes or support or to keep them occupied. Whitney Webb points out how the wealthy use philanthropy to make themselves look like a good guy.  

Roy Cohn did not chose Donald Trump to mentor unless he detected similar thinking to his own in him. I know how psychopaths think. Trump has been surrounded by this cabal of psychopaths and sociopaths for decades. That would not happen unless he was one of them. This is how it works people. Those who are trying to say Trump was not a part of what went on or is a good guy are clueless and being manipulated. This is psych 101, basic stuff.

Please do yourself and your country a favor and read these three articles by Whitney Webb. Jeffrey Epstein was way more than just a pedophile, he ran compromise operations for intelligence agencies in a decades old melding of our government psychopaths and mobster psychopaths. This was done to control our politicians and other powerful people. I believe George Webb is right about Epstein and the cabal also running drugs, weapons, uranium and more, this is not just about sex trafficking. This is organized crime, just like Doug Valentine's title of his brilliantly written and well researched book, 'CIA as Organized Crime.' It's organizied crime outside the intelligence agencies melded with organized crime inside them. Gangstalking was done for decades by the
mobsters, the KKK, the Masons and other groups. It is now widespread and rather than relying on just other sociopathics in the communities to assist them in harming, discrediting, destroying careers, killing people, financially ruining, discrediting, isolating, all the tactics they use, now they use the intelligence agencies and in particular the DOJ which oversees the FBI and USMS. The oligarchs are tied to all of this and it has spread worldwide. When they talk about Russians interfering in the United States it is the oligarchic psychopathics from Russia working with ours to make money and get power.

I'm already being gangstalked, they destroyed my career and I say whatever the hell I want. Truth flows off me like I'm a fountain. You can work to discredit me but the truth will still be around trying to bite evil in the ass.

These articles, each one long and packed full of information are written by the brilliant Whitney Webb, published in Mint Press. She says she has another article coming. She could probably write on about all of this for a long time.  She points out this information is out in the open. This is why I keep whining about people not reading, it is the only way you can have any idea what is going on. Some of the older books were blocked by the government for a long time, they would block publishing and have even gone all over the country buying all of someone's book right out of the book stores to prevent Americans from reading them. Many books are not put in libraries and sabotaged. Those are the ones you need to find. READ!

Whitney Webb is being blocked on Facebook. I don't have to wonder why she lives in Chilli.

Too Big to Fail: Hidden in Plain Sight: The Shocking Origins of the Jeffrey Epstein Case

 

Government by Blackmail: Jeffrey Epstein, Trump’s Mentor and the Dark Secrets of the Reagan Era

Mega Group, Maxwells and Mossad: The Spy Story at the Heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal 

 

Ultimately, the picture painted by the evidence is not a direct tie to a single intelligence agency but a web linking key members of the Mega Group, politicians, and officials in both the U.S. and Israel, and an organized-crime network with deep business and intelligence ties in both nations. 

Gangstalking Long Island Claims She Got the Reason for Her FISA Warrant, It is Lies Like We Keep Telling the Idiots Who Are Intentionally Harming US

I have been made homeless several times. Here in Boise it was HUD subsidized housing and an Army of Weaponized Morons, they are also Weaponized Sociopaths. In Soldotna Alaska it was USDA RD subsidized housing, organized by a corrupt cop. That corrupt cop, Greg Russell actually used elderly women, some with dementia as gangstalkers. He did not just go after me, he used gangstalking for his and his wife's personal narcissistic vendetta against the manager and maintenance man. It was nice at those apts for a short time, then the old managers moved on to retirement and the Russells were hired. Then the Russells manipulated I suspect through some kind of compromising information Jenny Russell's son into the manager position when they left. Putting him in that job made no sense. Then he did not do the job and the laundry room and office were filled with cigarette and marijuana smoke from his attached apartment. The worst of it was he did not do his job and closed the office all the time. The Russells went after the maintenance man, the only other employee who reported these problems to their employer. It took Quantum Management in WA to finally fire him but when they did the Russells began a reign of retaliatory terror against the man. They hosted a mobbing meeting against him at the senior center and later got a woman to accuse him of being a peeping tom. It was sick, at the meeting I said, "This is a mobbing." That maintenance man knew what he was doing and was a nice man. They even had a woman tell lies about me while I was at the meeting, done by a person who had been informed by myself what the Russells had told her were lies.

Apparently there was a second meeting about the woman who replaced the problem son of Jenny Russell. She had nothing to do with anything, was just hired for a job. I tried to help her as they were mobbing the hell out of her with constant harassment. Eventually they turned her against me and she did some ugly things. She was leaving right as I did. They kept that meeting from me. I had a right to know, Quantum Management and VITUS Corporation (owner entity).

They often use people with disabilities for gangstalking, mental illness, dementia, intellectual issues, physical disabilities etc. They also have people who fake disabilities. In Boise they often have fake blind people. From the Civic Plaza Apts. I walked across the street for groceries and they often had a fake blind person crossing the street or even two separate ones. As a retired RN I have some experience with disabilities, how blind people move and function, they walked along like sighted people. Then at the grocery store close to the front would be a van from a company called, "The Blind Guy." That happened several times. They would appear all over and I would post something on FB like, Hey she wasn't blind earlier today and now she is.

Soon they moved the mother of one of the corrupt supervisors at the Alaska Department of Corrections next door to me to facilitate organized harassment. The former owner of the property told me it was being done because of "those things you are writing." Then that apt was used for noise campaigns and chemical campaigns. At times there was massive cigarette smoke. For those who do not know there is no cigarette smoking allowed on HUD or USDA RD property, at that time they allowed it outside but people smoked inside, just like at the Civic Plaza Apts in Boise. She put a massive amount of moth balls in the soil in front of her apt. which is a pesticide that disperses as a gas and the fumes came into my apt. She moved her grandchildren in with her and someone came into her apt around 3 AM often. The children kicked the walls at night and made lots of noise in the one bedroom apartment. I was told the apts were for one person or perhaps a couple when I moved in. Everyone lies that has anything to do with subsidized housing.

No notice that the senior and disabled complex had been changed to a family property was given. It was a one bedroom apt. They used all the hot water, for months as the boiler system was designed for 4 people, not 6 and two of them kids. I had to heat water for dishes and bathing on the stove. The boiler was also used for heat so all four apts it supplied had to do without heat a lot of the time. No amount of complaining caused any changes to USDA RD or the management company until the boiler was almost dead and she stopped getting hot water. Then they put a new one in. These are illegal actions and criminal harassment done by several people.

What they did to a woman with severe dementia on the property is elder abuse and the state of Alaska was complicit. There was a woman with severe dementia in the apt on the other side of this woman. She was unable to complain about the noise and chemicals or the lack of hot water. She was so unable to function her family rigged the stove so she could not use it and finally had to turn the water off as she could not remember to turn it off and it overflowed all over. This was a very dangerous situation for her and other residents. I contacted Adult Protective Services which did what all the agencies do, take no appropriate action about any of my very valid complaints and reporting of people in danger sending me a letter with an attitude. I tried to help her. She needed to be in assisted living. She died before I left there they say. After that the gangstalking mother of a DOC employee moved to the other side of the property. That was probably due to the death of that woman who they used as cover to discredit my complaints dying due to her not being able to corroborate what I was saying about noise, chemicals, cigarette smoke, etc. Perhaps she moved next to another person with dementia. Nothing these people could do would surprise me.

Then there was the HUD subsidized apts in Boise Idaho where I am making videos about the harassment and crimes. Ran out of those with gangstalking of a massive scale using a large number of Idaho sociopaths on many levels. Many of these people belong in prisons, but instead they get paid, get big screen TVs, low interest loans and are given vacations. They also get help with criminal matters. The Russells, Greg and Jenny got a big screen TV, a vacation in Hawaii which was taken right at the most critical time for them to be on the property to protect the residents from abuse due to rehab work and then bought a house, bet it was a low interest loan. There was likely also help with the charges against the son of Jenny for burglary. Oh yea, I forgot, he was hired as the manager of an apartment complex with a conviction of burglary. They got him an SIS for that which in Alaska is the dropping of the charge from the record after successful completion of probation. I am not making this up. There were other people on the property who can verify the things the Russells got around that time which I now know are related to paying gangstalkers for their criminal services. 

This woman has an account on YouTube called 'Gangstalking Long Island,' she was recently made homeless and is living in a car. The very interesting statement about knowing what is in her FISA warrant is the main reason I am posting this. They don't generally even admit a FISA warrant exists when requests are made. How the hell did she find out what was in it?  They tell lies about the target on every level. High up is the only place they know the actual reason which has nothing to do with terrorism. The Fusion Center/NSA has one reason, the 911 call center/community police ops are told another, the sociopathic idiots in communities participating as brownshirts are told other reasons. The reasons are tailored to who the perpetrators of the harassment are, they tell them what they need to hear to hate the target which fuels the harassment and abuse. That is why the Toddler Soccer Coach said what he did to me. It's the first video in this post.

She describes a FISA Warrant with crazy lies.



The corrupt CIA has taken over the FBI and is conducting a Phoenix Program like op on citizens of the United States. If you want to know why the Vietnam Vets were so messed up read about the Phoenix Program.

Our rights have been stripped for false reasons. They now consider journalism and whistleblowing to be terrorism. This is due to the massive corruption and crimes they fear will be exposed. 

Donald Trump was put in place to help facilitate all of this which started many decades ago. He's part of it, but so many fall for the propaganda that he is fighting it. He hasn't done a damn thing about anything, except bully on Twitter and lie.

Phillip Hart was called the "Conscience of the Senate." He was the first choice to chair what became the Church Committee. They exposed lots of criminal activity against the citizens of the United States in 1975. Phillip Hart died of cancer in 1976. The man who chaired the committee, Frank Church died in 1984 of fast cancer. Mayor Bieter of Boise Idaho, when I tried to talk to him about the organized harassment and crimes at the Civic Plaza and elsewhere said he knew nothing about the Church Committee. Frank Church was from Idaho, born in Boise. 

The Church Committee was 44 years ago. These crimes against the citizens of the United States and people all over the world continued and we are close to totalitarianism. The Constitution and Bill of Rights has been subverted by the world oligarchic alliance and their compromised sociopathic minion politicians.

They are threatened of exposure from those who have the courage to speak the truth so use cowards to harm us.

Either Shawn Christy Has Special Powers Or This Story is an FBI Set Up Operation

This whole saga has become madness. Has the AI at the FBI/CIA Fusion Center has lost it's fucking mind? I don't know what is really going on here. 

AI is used to run gangstalking operations. This whole scenario is much like the crazy street theater they run, same stuff over and over. At this point none of this makes any sense. The only way this could be Shawn is if he has special powers or is getting help. It looks very much like an FBI set up op gone psychotic. The FBI creates crimes just in case anyone doesn't know that by now. 

It's kind of like a team is sent in to break into places, steal vehicles, then drive them to other places and leave them, then press releases are given to the hapless news media and local law enforcement. But it's more like they are just making the stories up. In the case of the minivan with the 'school children' signs I have wondered if they put it in a van and drove it to West Virginia. It's like a bunch of high school kids are going, hey let's do this next.  

The news media on this is coming out of ABC, WNEP first, then the others follow like sheep. The news is being compartmentalized to certain areas. I find nothing in Alaska newspapers or TV news media, it's blacked out there. Sometimes the Christys and myself are blocked from particular stories for a period of time. Our electronics are being messed with.

This all began around the first of June, at least the latest saga. It really began in 2009 when Shawn was 17 and sexted by Sarah Palin.

So far Shawn Christy was in McAdoo PA supposedly hiding in the woods behind his parent's house after he refused to go to a hearing when the prosecutor refused to give him the discovery he needed to defend himself in a set up case. His dad hiked around and found his camps and garbage. Shawn did go to his parent's home and told them he had been shopping at the Dollar General and refused to turn himself in because he was so angry about the injustice he has suffered.

Two homes were raided in Scranton because they detected Shawn's IP.  There was the story with the photoshopped picture where they claimed in Hazelton he stole a truck from a former employer, Hazelton Oil which he drove to the Canadian border, then he apparently stole another vehicle and  goes back to his uncle's house to shave, eat, pump bike tires, and steal three guns, then he steals a minivan in Drums PA with two signs that say, 'School Children' where a screen shotted photo is presented as him, but it is impossible to tell who it is or where the photo was taken. The next sighting was in Wexford PA with a screen shot from a convenience store which is supposed to have a gas station, no picture of the vehicle. The interesting thing about this photo is they said hair was found at the uncle's house so they expected him to be clean shaven, but in that photo he had a beard. Shawn is part Native, his facial hair is sparse and grows really slow. The photos never make any sense and that was the last one. Then the minivan was claimed to have been found in West Virginia where it runs out of gas, no photos. Next I find IPs viewing this blog in Kentucky not far from where Dakota Meyer lives, let Craig Christy know so he can report it to law enforcement to be on the safe side as it could have been anyone and post it on McAdoo Streets Police Corruption on FB to let members know and the law enforcement trolling the page. 

Not to long after this there was a report a Toyota Tundra was left close to Meyer's home, last night Dakota Meyers and his buddies went ape shit on Craig Christy. 

Last night I received a conference call which I had not dialed with the voice of Task Force, George Webb's partner who is a retired police officer in CA discussing why law enforcement does not tell the public about some of the evidence so the perp will not know to change their story, this is probably a gangstalking directed conversation op as I keep asking where is the evidence. Not providing pictures of cars they have already claimed Shawn stole or photos from surveillance video they announce to the news media does not fit that category. Do they think I'm stupid? I'm not saying Task Force was involved, it was probably someone playing  a recording, being tired it was just turned off. Of course there had to be some jackass texting me crap and then wanting to be my FB friend, sorry asshole. 

But wait, there's more. 

   
We had the night of the West Virginia Hillbilly cyberbullies night before last, the authoritarian Trump supporters who aren't too bright. Then Dakota Meyer and his buddies threatening last night and I had the crazy conference call last night, and other crap. 

Apparently the US Marshals have throttled down, they have not been seen riding around in trucks with automatic weapons along with the FBI menacingly in a while or claiming to be looking for Shawn while not doing so. The Christys claim they are not getting any information from law enforcement who said they would keep them informed. 

HLN/CNN reported early this morning that Shawn had been spotted in Pittsburg. These reports are all starting to look the same. He was there and we have video, surprise. There wasn't even a claim he stole a car.

AND NOW!

Tonight, you'll never guess who has a report, WNEP. They SAID Shawn Christy broke into Dakota Meyer's home in Kentucky, stole food and then stole a jeep. There is of course the usual claim of video but no screen shots are offered for the last few events. Guess they are tired of some woman analyzing the craziness, hmm. This was said to happen tonight. Just last night Dakota Meyer was saying he was waiting for Shawn, where was he? Where were all the law enforcement that is said to be concentrated in that area when they knew to watch out for Shawn there? Meyer messaged Craig Christy that he hoped Shawn enjoyed his food. Craig responded by telling Meyer they were both being played and asked him to help find Shawn. Wait, he went back to PA, was in Pittsburg Monday and now he is back in Kentucky? Was the Pittsburg story released early and was really to be told Sunday or Monday after the break in and theft on Thursday? And then...

Did they change the story or screw it up, who the fuck knows at this point. 

I wrote the above paragraph based on new media BS, then another report came out debunking this story, it was Dakota Meyer's brother's home according to this report. Nothing can be complete on this never ending story because something else happens before you can get done writing anything. What makes it even harder is you can't tell if any of it is is even true.

They had evidence of someone on my blog in that area getting close to where Dakota Meyer was, I provided it. Craig Christy informed law enforcement, so what in the hell is going on? Meyer claims threats from Shawn. There has been no evidence offered to prove that. Shawn goes to Meyer's brother's house, goes in and takes food, then a vehicle when law enforcement should be all over.

Are they kidding? I am now starting to wonder if the the original threats that started this crap were even Shawn. 

9/11: Grieving While Searching ForThe Truth

On 9/11/2001 when I saw the videos of the buildings fall I thought how strange that they looked like demolitions of buildings I had seen on video. I am not a structural engineer or an architect, so I did not understand that those buildings most likely had charges set to cause them to come down. When I heard the stories about building seven falling due to fire I had no idea that was not possible, but wondered how a fire that big was started in a building that was not hit by a plane. The experts say that even with the plane hitting the buildings the collapse of the buildings would not have happened. Now after so many years and so much information from the professionals/scientists who knew on that day we were being told untruths we need a real inquiry, not a kangaroo court type inquiry like the Warren Commission or the 9/11 Commission. We need to select people to be on this commission who are actual truth seekers who look at the evidence and have the power to request the information they need to do this. We owe it to those who were killed, the families of those who were killed, including those in other countries, we owe it to ourselves and those born in the future. I don’t know about everyone else, but I am tired of the never ending lies and cover ups. But more than anything I am sick of the kind of people who pulled all of this off causing so much pain and death not being held accountable for war crimes.

People all over the world want to know the truth about 9/11:
Fernando Imposimato, the President of the Italian Supreme Court, has raised the call for a criminal investigation of 9/11, comparing the terror attacks to the declassified "false flag" incidents carried out by the CIA in Italy under Operation Gladio.

A NYT article today spells out what a large number of us suspected. The GWB regime had their own agenda and were not listening to the truth from the CIA. This is a common tactic of psychopaths, they just say the experts who are getting in their way with facts and information are wrong and go ahead with their intended self serving plans. Retaliation against the truth tellers adds to the evidence that something was not right with 9/11 along with all the lies and ignored CIA information. Remember, Valerie Plame’s CIA career was destroyed by senior government officials of the GWB administration when they sought to retaliate against her husband Joseph Wilson for truth telling. They also had others who they were afraid would speak up about not being listened to retaliated against. Susan Lindauer worked for the CIA through back door channels and knew Iraq wanted our sanctions against them removed as about one million children had died, the schools had been closed and their health care system was destroyed. She says Iraq would willingly agree to almost anything to get the sanctions lifted and prevent war, they even invited the FBI to come to their country and find terrorists. Lindauer desperately tried to communicate with the White House to not start a war with Iraq before 9/11. They later had her imprisoned and accused her of being mentally ill while trying to force medication on her as detailed in her book Extreme Prejudice. This is the Patriot Act being used by bullying psychopaths to harm someone in order to cover for their crimes. As far as I am concerned Susan Lindauer is one of the most courageous patriots this country has ever seen.



Was the GWB regime involved in 9/11? Did Al Qaeda do 9/11 completely on their own or were they assisted by some group outside the United States? Susan Lindauer says the government used the terrorists as cover to plant the thermite in the three World Trade Buildings to create a spectacular incident so big they could use it to start a war. It was known the terrorists had a plan to crash planes into the twin towers and the Pentagon and they were allowed to do it, were they talked into it, are many of them still alive? Did they pull a tactic typically used by the FBI and plant people to give them what they needed and assist them to get the attack done? Some were known to be CIA assets, did they take direction to do particular things to make it look like they were planning an attack unknowingly? Was the GWB regime so incompetent they really ignored all the warnings or were they just playing incompetent to cover their plan? I have noticed Republican politicians love to do this. Was Al Qaeda manipulated into doing something they did not have the resources to get done, were they involved at all?

We all need some answers because the lies we have been told contribute to the anger in this country and the feeling that there is no rule of law except for those who have little money or power and the rules against them are harsh while others who torture and kill get off scot-free. The possible players in this story are wide ranging, but following the money will probably lead us to the truth as usual. 9/11 helped many corporations make huge amounts of money and there were officials high up on the GWB staff tied to those corporations. Susan Lindauer says she believes the military industrial complex may be involved due to being threatened by peace, they can't sell war products during peace. Experts have said the thermite is most likely from the military.

Not only do I think about 9/11 on every anniversary and those who lost their lives along with the families who were left behind to grieve. I also grieve the rights that we have all lost since then which over time continue to accrue. I grieve the ability to do something like go to an airport without being molested or make a phone call without being listened to or send a text message without it being stored. I think about a country that supposedly operates under the rule of law and how that is just a myth. Those in power who are supported by those with money can do whatever they want while those who have no power and money are harshly punished for what are actually medical problems, not crimes. I grieve for the attacks against whistleblowers. I grieve for all the lives lost in the countries where the oil wars were waged and those innocent people who are now being killed with drones. I grieve for the children being born with horrible birth defects in Iraq from nuclear material, white phosphorous and probably more left behind from US bombs. I grieve for our own soldiers who are forever altered with PTSD, head injuries or physical injuries so someone could make money. Many of them get into trouble due to the symptoms of PTSD and head injuries making it difficult for them to make good decisions, work or function in society. The injuries our soldiers suffer happen to the civilians in the countries they fight in as well. Certainly PTSD must run through the populations at astounding levels. I grieve for those who were tortured and held in solitary confinement by our country. I grieve for the loss of due process and a country where a president has a kill list that includes American citizens. President Obama is not the first to have such a list, he is the first to be honest about it.

We need the truth to be exposed, but the truth is not allowed unless it is forced or taken.  

THE WAR ON DRUGS AND CIA LIES

The CIA and other agencies just kill people in other countries for crimes, politics, or to protect "assets". For some reason there is no outcry about this. I believe it is one of the reasons for torture and murders under the George W. Bush regime, the CIA has been murdering and torturing people for years and the Bush family considers it so normal they automatically do it out in the open now. They were used to torturing and murdering people all over the world with impunity. If there was ever a question about their activities, easy solution, just lie, make up a cover story, or blame someone else. If someone in the government doesn't cooperate or trys to tell the truth, kill them or lock them up. Remember GHWB was the director of the CIA for about a year and the only person who alive on November 22nd 1963 who can't remember where he was that day. That's probably because he was so busy "organizing" activities in Dallas. He was selected as director mainly to restore morale, probably in part due to some legilators finding out about their internal assasinations and the ethical people being mortified to work for an organization that helped facilitate them.



CIA agents in Peru who can't speak fluent Spanish, really, are you kidding me? Whatever happened to arrest, being charged with a crime, and a trial? Because someone is smuggling drugs they should just be shot out of the sky? This time they screwed up big time. We know the executive branch has authorized the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be affiliated with terrorists. This is a violation of the constitution. In other words, no trial, no evidence(not that evidence is used much anymore), just some guys in a government agency deciding to kill them. Guys with the kind of judgment that got innocent people killed. We know citizens even inside the country have been killed, this includes a president. The FOIA, witnesses who have found the courage to come forward, and the declassification of the Russian cold war documents have revealed that JFK was clearly killed from inside our own government. That of course means the other assassinations during that period were most likely government facilitated murders. We know a lot of witnesses have died since then also.



The Airbridge Denial Program helped the Peruvian Air force shoot down 15 civilian planes without warning just a couple minutes after seeing them. They fired on most of the planes without giving them the required warnings or properly identifying themselves. They mislead congress and obstructed the Justice Department Investigation, but hey what difference does it make, the DOJ didn’t file charges against them anyway.

From ABC:
The CIA today was accused of lying to Congress and covering up its role in the deaths of two innocent Americans, a mother and her infant daughter, at the hands of the CIA and the Peruvian Air Force nine years ago.


"If there's ever an example of justice delayed, justice denied, this is it," said Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R.-Mich., ranking minority member of the House Intelligence Committee. "The [intelligence] community's performance in terms of accountability has been unacceptable. These were Americans that were killed with the help of their government, the community covered it up, they delayed investigating."


On April 20, 2001, Jim and Veronica "Roni" Bowers and their two children, six-year-old son Cory and infant daughter Charity, were returning to their home in Peru from a trip to Brazil in a small airplane piloted by Kevin Donaldson.

The Bowers' worked as Christian missionaries along a stretch of the Amazon River near Iquitos, Peru, a remote jungle region near the Brazilian and Colombian borders heavily traveled by drug traffickers.


The CIA and the Peruvian Air Force were working in the same area, trying to interdict the drug smugglers. Starting in 1995, they'd operated a joint program to intercept drug planes, shooting them down if necessary.


On April 20, a CIA spotter plane saw the Cessna in which the Bowers family was flying and alerted the Peruvian Air Force. What happened during the next hour and 49 minutes is captured in a CIA videotape.


The CIA spotter plane, with two operative aboard, sneaked up behind the Cessna as it flew over the Amazon.

"We are trying to remain covert at this point," one of the CIA pilots on the plane can be heard to say on the tape.


The CIA pilot describes the aircraft as a high-wing, single–engine float plane, which is accurate, that it has picked up on the border between Peru and Brazil.

But the CIA personnel misidentified the craft as a drug plane. The CIA alerted the Peruvian Air Force, which scrambled an interceptor. Over the next two hours, the CIA personnel would express doubts, but would not correct their error, and would repeatedly violate what the White House believed to be strict rules of engagement.


Said former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, who served in the White House at the time on the National Security Council, which created the anti-drug program, "Either the CIA spotter aircraft or the interceptor is supposed to get up close, identify the plane from the tail number, try to indicate to the plane that it should follow them to the ground."

That did not happen. Instead, the decision was made not to try to identify the tail number, because it might allow the plane to escape.


" You know, we can go up attempt the tail number," says a CIA operative on the tape. "The problem with that is that if he is dirty and he detect us, he makes a right turn immediately and we can't chase him."

When the Peruvian Air Force jet arrived it issued a warning to the target plane, saying, 'We will shoot you down." The warning was in Spanish, which the Bowers and their pilot could understand, but it was on the wrong frequency.


The CIA pilots begin to have doubts. "This guy doesn't, doesn't fit the profile," says one. But nothing was done to pull the plane back.

The CIA then asks a Peruvian Air Force liaison, "Are you sure is bandito? Are you sure?"


"Yes, okay," says the Peruvian.


"If you're sure," responds the CIA operative. Then more serious doubts were quietly whispered.


"That is bull—," says one CIA operative. "I think we're making a mistake."


"I agree with you," says the other operative.

A minute and a half later the gunships opened fire and the Bowers' pilot, Donaldson, screamed in Spanish for the jet to stop.


"They're killing me. They're killing us," yells Donaldson on the tape.


"Tell him to terminate," says one of the CIA operative to the Peruvian liaison. " No. Don't Shoot. No more, no mas."

The Peruvian liaison starts yelling at the pilot, "Stop! No mas, no mas, Tucan no more."


"God," says one of the CIA pilots.

By then the damage was done. Trailing black smoke, it headed for a river to land, with Veronica Bowers and her daughter Charity already dead from bullet wounds and the pilot wounded in both legs.


Jim Bowers, his son Cory and Kevin Donaldson survived. But for almost nine years, the CIA misled Congress, the White House and the dead woman's parents about how and why the agency defied the rules established to make sure innocent people were not killed.


"I want to know the truth," Garnett Luttig, father of Roni Bowers, told ABC News. "I want to know why. I wonder why my baby's gone. Don't they understand that?"


Said Gloria Luttig, Roni's mother, "I want somebody to have to stand up and say I was responsible. I want him to know what a mother's heart is like."

On Wednesday, the CIA said its nine-year long investigation had determined that 16 CIA employees should be disciplined, including the woman then in charge of counter-narcotics.

Nine years? Are you kidding?

Many of them are no longer with the CIA, and one of those involved said his discipline was no more than a letter of reprimand placed in his file, which he was told would be removed in one year.

That sounds about right.

A CIA spokesperson issued a statement to ABC News Wednesday that placed the blame for the shootdown on the Peruvian Air Force, and said its own internal review had shown no evidence of a cover-up.

Yea, that is why it took nine years of  the family fighting to get the truth about it.

"The program to deny drug traffickers an "air bridge" ended in 2001 and was run by a foreign government," said the spokesperson. "CIA personnel had no authority either to direct or prohibit actions by that government. CIA officers did not shoot down any airplane. In the case of the tragic downing of April 21st, 2001, [sic] CIA personnel protested the identification of the missionary plane as a suspect drug trafficker."

Excuse me, but I just heard you directing them and then telling them "no mas" to get them to stop shooting. The Peruvian decided they were "banditos" after you asked him if they were and I am not sure that guy really understood you and one of you said, "ok".


The date of the downing was April 20.


"This was a tragic episode that the Agency has dealt with in a professional and thorough manner," continued the statement. "Unfortunately, some have been willing to twist facts to imply otherwise. In so doing, they do a tremendous disservice to CIA officers, serving and retired, who have risked their lives for America's national security."

The CIA's full statement.

Ever notice the CIA is never at fault, even though it has been pretty much proven they stired up crap in Viet Nam to start the war going, were involved in assasinating a president, and have facilitated many coups in other countries. They always take the stance of being heros and are quite indignant that they should be questioned(they are allowed to lie to congress, BTW). We assasinate people all over the world and that is supposed to be a heroic act, I disagree. How heroic is pulling a trigger when the target is not shooting at you? If another government sent agents into our country to kill people we would probably start a war with them. I believe there are some missions in which agents are putting their lives in danger, but why were we just assasinating drug dealers in partner with another country? Following them and arresting them I could see. I guess the CIA wanted to eliminate it's competition. Anyone who is a bigger drug dealer than the CIA could be killed. Is that at least a part of what is going on with the bloody drug war in Mexico right now? Without the drug economy Mexico will completely collapse and it is a part of our economy also.

They can pretty much go after anyone they claim is a threat to the United States. Where does it end? Will they eventually go after people whose politics they disagree with, oh yea, I forgot that already started happening in 1963. 



Don't you wish Rep. McDonald was still alive and could have been there when Joe Wilson yelled, "You lie", "Wait a minute sir, you do not have the mic, wait a minute, don’t speak out of turn, please, please, please, keep the noise down so that we can hear and we can get answers." Can you tell she was an educator in the past?

The CIA has been implemented in starting the crack epidemic in this country. Part of their reason was to get funding for illegal operations and part of it was just that our economy has always had drugs involved and it has a lot to do with Wall Street. They dumped the drugs into inner city areas where the people were more liberal and more minority. All wars, even the War On Drugs are about money, and lower economic classes are always sacrificed. That is why laws against crack were made so harsh. Regular old powder cocaine is used by upper middle class whites for the most part. Making those laws harsh helped the prison industry make more money. Drugs have been a part of our economy almost from the beginning. This influx of drugs into inner cities caused the huge gang problem, the value of homes to go down (causing people to have to walk away from their mortgages), caused neighborhoods to be completely destroyed, and then people came in and bought the land.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/11/world/main4664791.shtml
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122930087794405393.html